After the shooting at the Synagogue in Pittsburgh, the idea of dealing with our gun laws came up. After all, when it came to all the previous shootings, they had not been the time to have that discussion.
When he was asked if that time was now, Trump expressed his idea that what needed to be discussed was the death penalty.
“This has little to do with it if you take a look. I think one thing we should do is stiffen up our laws in terms of the death penalty. And I think they should very much bring the death penalty into vogue.”
So rather than do what could be done to limit deaths, Trump seems to not only be okay with the potential loss of the lives of the victims, but wants to add additional deaths, that of the shooters.
AND, it would be fashionable. It would be in vogue.
Of course, to help increase the carnage, and as a way to blame the victims, he went on to repeat his call to increase those who are armed by stating,
“If they had protection inside, the results would have been far better. If they had some kind of protection inside the temple, maybe it could have been a much different situation. But they didn’t.”
Not really in sync with his sentiment in his inaugural address that,
“This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.”
Previously in response to the shooting in Las Vegas, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders may have repeated President Donald Trump’s condolences to the victims and families of those who were killed and injured, but then immediately pivoted to the mantra “this is not the time”.
“This is an unspeakable tragedy. Today is a day for consoling the survivors mourning those we lost. There’s a time and place for a political debate, but now is the time to unite as a country.”
Apparently protecting us from mass shootings is a political thing not a personal safety thing?
“There is an ongoing law enforcement investigation. It would be premature for us to discuss policy when we don’t know all of the facts.”
She went on to say,
“We don’t want to try to create laws that won’t stop these kinds of things from happening. Before we need to start talking about the preventions, we need to know more facts. The only person with blood on their hands is the shooter and this isn’t a time for us to go after.”
After the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High in Florida, when asked if he thought it was the appropriate time to begin the discussion about gun control reform, Marco Rubio intoned the mantra.
“It’s not, only because people don’t know how this happened… who this person is, what motivated them, how did they get a hold of the weapon that they used for this attack.
I think it’s important to know all of that before you jump to conclusions that there’s some law we could have passed that could have prevented it. There may be, but shouldn’t we at least know the facts? I think that we can always have that debate but if you’re going to have the debate about this particular incident, you should know the facts of that incident before you run out and prescribe some law you claim could have prevented it.”
Paul Ryan echoed this saying,
“This is not a time to jump to some conclusion not knowing the full facts. We’ve got a lot more information we need to know.”
“This is one of those moments where we just need to step back and count our blessings. We need to think less about taking sides, and fighting each other politically, and just pulling together.”
So when is the right time, since we have yet to have the discussion even during the quiet time between mass shootings
I did a quick search for a list of mass shootings since Columbine and found this in the Villanovan, the student newspaper of Villanova University.
That certainly made it easy for me.
Each was deemed not the proper time to discuss reasonable gun control laws.
- Columbine High School Shooting, Littleton, Colorado – April 1999: 13 Dead
2. Atlanta Shootings, Atlanta, Georgia – July 1999: 12 Dead
3. Wedgwood Baptist Church shooting, Fort Worth, Texas – September 1999: 7 Dead
4. Xerox Killings, Honolulu, Hawaii – November 1999: 7 Dead
5. Tampa Hotel Shootings, Tampa, Florida – December 1999: 5 Dead
6. Wakefield Massacre, Wakefield, Massachusetts – December 2000: 7 Dead
7. Lockheed Martin Shooting, Median, Mississippi – July 2003: 6 Dead
8. Living Church of God Shooting, Brookfield, Wisconsin – March 2005: 7 Dead
9. Red Lake High School, Red Lake Indian Reservation, Minnesota – March 2005: 9 Dead
10. Goleta Postal Shootings, Goleta, California – January 2006: 7 Dead
11. Capitol Hill Massacre, Seattle Washington – March 2006: 6 Dead
12. West Nickel Mines Amish School, Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania – October 2006: 5 Dead
13. Tolley Square Shooting, Salt Lake City, Utah – February 2007: 5 Dead
14. Virginia Tech University, Blacksburg, Virginia – April 2007: 32 Dead
15. Crandon Shooting, Crandon Wisconsin – October 2007: 6 Dead
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16. Westroads Mall Shooting, Omaha Nebraska – December 2007: 8 Dead
17. Kirkwood City Council Shooting, Kirkwood, Missouri – February 2008: 6 Dead
18. Northern Illinois University, Dekalb, Illinois – February 2008: 5 Dead
19. Atlantis Plastics Shooting, Henderson Kentucky – June 2008: 5 Dead
20. Carthage Nursing Home Shooting – Carthage, North Carolina – March 2009: 8 Dead
21 .Geneva County Massacre, Geneva and Samson, Alabama – March 2009: 10 Dead
22. Binghampton Shootings, Binghampton – April 2009: 13 Dead
23. Fort Hood Shooting, Fort Hood, Texas – November 2009: 13 Dead
24. Hartford Beer Distributor Shooting, Manchester, Connecticut – August 2010: 8 Dead
25. Tucson Shooting, Tucson, Arizona – January 2011: 6 Dead
26. Seal Beach Shooting, Seal Beach, California – October 2011: 8 Dead
27. Oikos University, Oakland, California – April 2012: 7 Dead
28. Seattle Café Shooting, Seattle, Washington – May 2012: 5 Dead
29. Aurora Shooting, Aurora, Colorado – July 2012: 12 Dead
30. Sikh Temple Shooting, Oak Creek, Wisconsin – August 2012: 6 Dead
31. Accent Signage Systems Shooting, Minneapolis, Minnesota – September 2012: 6 Dead
32. Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, Connecticut – December 2012: 27 Dead
33. Santa Monica College, Santa Monica, California – June 2013: 5 Dead
34. Hialeah Shooting, Hialeah, Florida – July 2013: 6 Dead
35. Washington Navy Yard Shooting, Washington D.C. – September 2013: 12 Dead
36. University of California Santa Barbara, Isla Vista, California – May 2014: 6 Dead
37. Marysville Pilchuck High School, Marysville, Washington – October 2014: 4 Dead
38. Charleston Church Shooting, Charleston, South Carolina – June 2015: 9 Dead
39. Chattanooga Military Recruitment Center, Chattanooga Tennessee – July 2015: 5 Dead
40. Umpqua Community College, Roseburg, Oregon – October 2015: 9 Dead
41.San Bernardino Attack, San Bernardino, California – December 2015: 14 Dead
42. Kalamazoo Shooting Spree, Kalamazoo County, Michigan – February 2016: 6 Dead
43. Orlando Night-club Shooting, Orlando, Florida – June 2016: 49 Dead
44. Dallas Police Shooting, Dallas Texas – July 2016: 5 Dead
45. Cascade Mall Shooting, Burlington, Washington – September 2016: 5 Dead
46. Fort Lauderdale Airport Shooting, Fort Lauderdale, Florida- January 2017: 5 Dead
47. Las Vegas Shooting, Las Vegas, Nevada – October 2017: 58 Dead
48. Sutherland Springs Church, Sutherland Springs, Texas – November 2017: 26 Dead
49. Rancho Tehama Shooting, Rancho Tehama, California – November 2017: 5 Dead
50. Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland, Florida – February 2018: 17 Dead
And to that we now add the synagogue in Pittsburgh, bringing the total to 544 people of whom 128 were children and college students.
Since 2006 the number and frequency of shootings has increased.
The 1994 ban on assault weapons, signed by President Clinton, which outlawed 19 types of military-style assault weapons, expired in 2004. It would not have if, according to a clause in the ban, Congress had reauthorized it, which it did not.
When children died at Sandy Hook and it was decided that that was not the time to even discuss reasonable gun laws, America lost its soul.
So when is the right time?